Please do a review/ article on the massive amount of red sea tank failures for the last five years

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I once reached out to glass ages and didn't even get a reply. So I think there are pros and cons to each vendor.
I called glass-cages in the recent past, left a voicemail and got a call back from Joe(owner)
 

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I called glass-cages in the recent past, left a voicemail and got a call back from Joe(owner)
Yep - things are a lot different in the ~5 years since the ownership change. I don't have a GC tank, but know several people that do and have worked with them on a possible upgrade for myself. The responsiveness was top notch.
 

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Yep - things are a lot different in the ~5 years since the ownership change. I don't have a GC tank, but know several people that do and have worked with them on a possible upgrade for myself. The responsiveness was top notch.

Ah... well, my experience must have been before new ownership.
 

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Ah... well, my experience must have been before new ownership.
Yep - same business name, wholly different experience, quality and approach to customer service.
 

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Yeah, I emailed them a couple months ago about getting a shipping quote for a tank. Joe passed it on to someone named Silas, and I had a shipping quote in 19 total minutes (I just looked it up).
 

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other suggestions are eshopps mariner or reef-savvy or crystal dynamics
The 250 just seems to be the perfect tank for what I’m looking for though. What is the likelihood of getting one and it failing

I mean I’m not dumb clearly Red Sea has a problem. But at the same time don't there have to be tons of happy customers that NEVER had an issue?

I mean no disrespect to the people who have had problems and much more knowledge than me
 

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Hey guys are there any tanks that would be similar to the Red Sea 170 or the Red Sea 200 G2.

I’m thinking I might be able to get away with this size in my apartment but I’m spooked about the Red Sea brand now.

Their tanks are so beautiful I want something similar ya know
 

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If you can go 48” this deal can’t be beat

Currently price is 1599 shipped with tank, cabinet, sump, ato, plumbing kit.

If you want to do your own pvc work then you can get the combo for 1399 - no plumbing kit

Got mine a few days ago
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There has to a basic answer to their tank failures. The type of silicone may have been a lower grade and the seams weakened with minor settling of the stand or floor its on putting uneven stress on the joints. The lower grade silicone possibly failed. As far as glass breaking, it wont do it by itself.
 

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Hey guys are there any tanks that would be similar to the Red Sea 170 or the Red Sea 200 G2.

I’m thinking I might be able to get away with this size in my apartment but I’m spooked about the Red Sea brand now.

Their tanks are so beautiful I want something similar ya know
SC Aquariums makes a rimless 24x20x20 45 gallon and a 24x24x20 50 gallon. About 5-600 bucks.

Glass cages has listed a 24x24x18 rimless 45 gallon and a 2ft cube 60 gallon.
 

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Hey guys are there any tanks that would be similar to the Red Sea 170 or the Red Sea 200 G2.

I’m thinking I might be able to get away with this size in my apartment but I’m spooked about the Red Sea brand now.

Their tanks are so beautiful I want something similar ya know
Why not waterbox or innovative marine or prostar, all these have proper metal reinforced stands. Or go with glasscages and ask for full armored seams with bottom bracing. Eheim also comes to mind (I asked Eheim rep and tank is still made in Germany)
eheim 230 https://eheim.com/en_GB/aquatics/aq...ine-water/incpiria-marine/incpiria-marine-230
 

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Hey guys are there any tanks that would be similar to the Red Sea 170 or the Red Sea 200 G2.

I’m thinking I might be able to get away with this size in my apartment but I’m spooked about the Red Sea brand now.

Their tanks are so beautiful I want something similar ya know
Innovative Marine is priced well and good quality/features. But for a 170 or 200, even the Gen 1 Red Sea you should be fine with since it’s not much water volume/weight/force. If you like the RedSea look then get the Red Sea G2. Simple.
 

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Why not waterbox or innovative marine or prostar, all these have proper metal reinforced stands. Or go with glasscages and ask for full armored seams with bottom bracing. Eheim also comes to mind (I asked Eheim rep and tank is still made in Germany)
eheim 230 https://eheim.com/en_GB/aquatics/aq...ine-water/incpiria-marine/incpiria-marine-230
I didn’t seen any innovative marine tanks that were 40 and had sumps. I saw some AIO. I maybe be unaware of some of their models. Thanks
 

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SC Aquariums makes a rimless 24x20x20 45 gallon and a 24x24x20 50 gallon. About 5-600 bucks.

Glass cages has listed a 24x24x18 rimless 45 gallon and a 2ft cube 60 gallon.
For me just a bit too big. Looking at no more than low 40’s for a display tank. Mid 30’s would be great with a sump. Idealy I’d love like a 75 but current residence just not going to try and hide that lol

The SC 45 is kinda tempting tho lol.
 

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At 32 to 38 gallons display tank

with sumps:
(1) https://www.saltwateraquarium.com/p...rium-w-white-stand-pro-clear-aquatic-systems/
(2) here's another one maxspect - everything included ie lights etc
(3) https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/octo...=10770&indexName=brs_prod_m2_default_products
(4) https://waterboxaquariums.com/collections/marine-x/products/marine-x60-2-v2
(5) https://eheim.com/en_GB/aquatics/aq...ine-water/incpiria-marine/incpiria-marine-230
(6) glasscages - 18x18x24
 

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Almost the exact same dimensions as the Red Sea 170 and 200?
Huh I guess I didn’t realize that. Isn’t a 170 like 34 gallons of display? 45 just seems like it would be wayyy noticeable bigger. I can understand the 200 being almost the same tho.

Thanks for pointing that out
 

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