Cc24k Holy Grail Torch

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I am on a verge of making a lot of people angry. This lineage is kind of going insane.
From what I gather from a select few posts....
My dobermann is not a dobermann because I did not buy directly from Friedrich Louis Dobermann.

Can we get a coral club to start making sure these corals are registered and pedigreed, lineage documented?
It is up to you as a buyer to make sure you have all that proof, before purchasing a coral. Corals are not manmade (OBV) it’s a part of the ocean we take and put straight in our tank , when they’re one coral there’s many others that look similar. the thing with the CC24K is 1- I never seen a torch brighter or as pretty as it. Many haven’t actually 2-it’s been kept in tanks for many many many years so you know you’re getting a coral already used to “Aquarium” conditions. And not a random wild that’s gonna give problems struggling to adjust to your aquarium 3- it sucks that Coralcruze wants to bring everyone down who didn’t directly get it from him , but got it from sellers who had proof of purchase that leads back to him.
 
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This thread is pretty funny. Still the quote above speaks volume. People can purchase where and with whom they would like. However, liniage is liniage and can not be disputed and getting a head directly from the original mother colony is the ONLY way to insuring they are getting the real deal and the best chance of success. Otherwise its easy to read the many comments online like the one above of what happens to some people. I get countless communications of people with the same or worse expierience with loss of color buying elsewhere or length of tentacles that become short and stocky ect as BobbyClien posted above or even worse. There are people that have contacted me that I know purchased wild colonies and then contact me to sell them a head so they can pass thier wilds as a real CoralCruze Holy Grail. Be careful, thats the ugly side of this hobby I guess. There are a few that were able to grow out the cc24k with the coloration and even more importantly the signature curley cue very longggg tentacles you see in my mother colony I posted. If you want smooth stocky, short tentacles there is ASD HG that is way less expensive than the CoralCruze 24k HG... for a reason. I realize that some people may ignore these facts if they so choose to save a buck. The guys and gals that place value on thier one of a kind gems wont do that as they know that in this hobby you really do get what you pay for.

At the end of the day, the ONLY CoralCruze CC24K original colony in existence is in my tank and looking just a nice as ever.
for whatever reason…
i feel like this thing is your father


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When you get your torch from multi generation sources that chop'em up, that's what happens. Yah didn't get it from me bud. There is only ONE original CC24K CoralCruze Holy Grail colony and that's in my tank for over 10 years. Sorry OP didn't get it from me either.
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Your CC keep that bright gold coloration? I have two separate pieces purchased from two reputable sellers.

Both came in looking just like yours. Both are not as bright now and just look like any other nice HG.
The above is priceless as KARMA has spoken. Anyone that saw communication between myself and Camaro (bobbys friend) will know exactly that I was not going to sell to BobbyClien and refused to sell to Camaro also because bobby messed that one up for him unfortunately. Bobby contacted me several times wanting a head that I refused to sell to him despite his lies here. Its priceless that now he posts that he has coloration issues when he purchased elsewhere. All of you that jumped on the bandwagon here, misery loves company is all I can say as I smile. My reputation in the hobby speaks for itself and I dont need to say a word edgewise in that regurd. I feel sorry for those buyers (except Bobby because he had it coming) who purchase what they are told is a cc24ķ and cant keep the color or it flat out morphs or dies. People reading my comments will see plainly what I said and those that come and see the mother colony for themselves know without any doubt what-so-ever that there is a definate differance.

Oh and Bobby that head you keep posting was sold in less than 48 hours to a local guy who came by and snatched it and was so unbelievably happy with the health and size of the head and was blown away by the color and length of the tenticles. The last time I spoke to the guy the head was thrieving and looks amazing .

Next time bobby be upfront with people instead of spying for your friend. I dont play that game is why you and your friend lost out on the real CoralCruze 24k HG. Haters with hate so let the show commense. Bye
 
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The above is priceless as KARMA has spoken. Anyone that saw communication between myself and Camaro (bobbys friend) will know exactly that I was not going to sell to BobbyClien and refused to sell to Camaro also because bobby messed that one up for him unfortunately. Bobby contacted me several times wanting a head that I refused to sell to him despite his lies here. Its priceless that now he posts that he has coloration issues when he purchased elsewhere. All of you that jumped on the sllitshow bandwagon here, misery loves company is all I can say as I smile. My reputation in the hobby speaks for itself and I dont need to say a word edgewise in that regurd. I feel sorry for those buyers (except Bobby because he had it coming) who purchase what they are told is a cc24ķ and cant keep the color or it flat out morphs or dies. People reading my comments will see plainly what I said and those that come and see the mother colony for themselves know without any doubt what-so-ever that there is a definate differance.

Oh and Bobby that head you keep posting was sold in less than 48 hours to a local guy who came by and snatched it and was so unbelievably happy with the health and size of the head and was blown away by the color and length of the tenticles. The last time I spoke to the guy the head was thrieving and looks amazing .

Next time bobby be upfront with people instead of spying for your friend. I dont play that game is why you and your friend lost out on the real CoralCruze 24k HG. Haters with hate so let the sllitshow commense. Bye


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The above is priceless as KARMA has spoken. Anyone that saw communication between myself and Camaro (bobbys friend) will know exactly that I was not going to sell to BobbyClien and refused to sell to Camaro also because bobby messed that one up for him unfortunately. Bobby contacted me several times wanting a head that I refused to sell to him despite his lies here. Its priceless that now he posts that he has coloration issues when he purchased elsewhere. All of you that jumped on the sllitshow bandwagon here, misery loves company is all I can say as I smile. My reputation in the hobby speaks for itself and I dont need to say a word edgewise in that regurd. I feel sorry for those buyers (except Bobby because he had it coming) who purchase what they are told is a cc24ķ and cant keep the color or it flat out morphs or dies. People reading my comments will see plainly what I said and those that come and see the mother colony for themselves know without any doubt what-so-ever that there is a definate differance.

Oh and Bobby that head you keep posting was sold in less than 48 hours to a local guy who came by and snatched it and was so unbelievably happy with the health and size of the head and was blown away by the color and length of the tenticles. The last time I spoke to the guy the head was thrieving and looks amazing .

Next time bobby be upfront with people instead of spying for your friend. I dont play that game is why you and your friend lost out on the real CoralCruze 24k HG. Haters with hate so let the sllitshow commense. Bye
The more you talk the dumber you sound. You wanted to sell me this fake piece for $2,200. The screenshot shows you asking for a deposit. I said no thanks.

Your clearly the one lying here...not me.
 

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The more you talk the dumber you sound. You wanted to sell me this fake piece for $2,200. The screenshot shows you asking for a deposit. I said no thanks.

Your clearly the one lying here...not me.
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Oh the good old days…when a cc 24k hg was known as a premium gold torch @ $50 a head. How times have changed.
 
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Oh the good old days…when a cc 24k hg was known as a premium gold torch @ $50 a head. How times have changed.
Love the dime bag reference lol.
 

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My reputation in the hobby speaks for itself and I dont need to say a word edgewise in that regurd.

Actually it didn't. I knew Nothing of you personally but would have LOVED to have one of the CC24K's.

After reading your Nonsense, Not a chance you Ever see a a dime from my OG Lineage bank account. .

Keep going bro. You're doing awesome at making a brand for yourself.

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Saying that only a frag from the original mother holds the genotype is just flat out wrong according to science. The phenotype may change from tank to tank but it would change whether the frag came from CC or any other piece with the same genotype. Genetics don't change by fragging.
 

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Actually it didn't. I knew Nothing of you personally but would have LOVED to have one of the CC24K's.

After reading your Nonsense, Not a chance you Ever see a a dime from my OG Lineage bank account. .

Keep going bro. You're doing awesome at making a brand for yourself.

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I agree with this.

In all seriousness @CC24KCORALCRUZE your attitude alone says a lot. A "Proper Seller" would have handled things in a whole different manner. Even if called out or disrespected. Your post is just not the way to handle things and has that "holier than thou" vibe to it. Not to mention that you fail to realize that while the torch looks like that in your tank, it may not look like that in someone elses. I also find it funny, from the way I read your post, that if XXXXX buys your torch grows it out, sells it that it will will not look just the same as yours. That is just plain nuts. Heck I could buy your torch, throw it under my MH/T5 lighting and shove it in a ton of flow or throw it under my hydra tank in now flow, I bet it looks different. I could also buy it grow it out, find the sweet spot and make it look exactly like yours.

My suggestion, keep doing what you do, and love your "special torch".

Also, maybe you should be like Ferrari and create a legally binding contract for when someone purchases one. Or do credit checks, background checks, and tank inspections before selling one lol.
 

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