I just read thru this entire thread and learned nothing substantial. Other than people don’t like torch prices or my “friend” has an order on the way etc....we’ve heard this all before. The fact is Torches won’t flood the market and asd will never sell them for $5 a head even if they reopen Indo. Until someone actually receives a confirmed order, this is all hearsay and I can’t believe reef2reef sent out an email plugging this thread.