More fish to add in 29 Gallon

[sam2216]

Most of the fish I listed max out in size around 2 inches or have a live aquaria recommended aquarium size around 15 gallons. Green banded gobies are really tiny but I like them. Mine are under 1 inch. They don't swim around much but do dart around when feeding. They stick around the sand bed or resting on rocks. If you get 2 they will change sexes and pair up. They can change sexes either way. Mine had babies a few weeks ago which promptly disappeared.

Yasha goby and Candycane pistol shrimp(Alpheus Randalli) will pair up and live together in a hole. Most people have a yellow watchman goby and tiger pistol shrimp but they both get pretty big. The shrimp digs while the goby is the lookout. A yasha/candycane are great for small tanks because the yasha doesn't get too big and they live on the sand bed at the bottom of the tank which saves good real-estate in the swimming column for other fish.

My 22gallon was setup about 6 months ago and has 3 fish in it. Only because I have been preoccupied with my larger build. There is 2 green banded gobies and 1 yasha goby. Probably only 2.25 inches total of fish.. I plan to add a possum wrasse and rainfords goby when drReef finishes treating them.. These max at 3 inches but my tank has a lot of good hiding places and they are still listed 15 gallons and under. They will also be the biggest fish in the tiny tank so hopefully they won't feel cramped.

I'll probably stop with these 5 fish. Maybe someday if I have a low waste problem from corals thriving then I might add a yellow striped cardinal fish.

Thanks for the info!

 

[sam2216]

I think adding all 3 of those fish would be overload, in all honesty. The pufferfish will also likely eat any motile inverts. You could probably get away with a dwarf angel.

One question: which dwarf sounds good to you, coral beauty or pygmy?

 

[fishywishy]

One question: which dwarf sounds good to you, coral beauty or pygmy?

Pygmy

 

[TX_REEF]

One question: which dwarf sounds good to you, coral beauty or pygmy?

no experience with pygmy, but they are super cute. Having kept flame angels and coral beauty, they are both mean as hell to new additions of similar shape, but I personally like the appearance of flame angels better. Both have lots of personality.

 

[sam2216]

This is the most important reply. Please read this reply again.

I don't know how by I somehow crossed into a youtube video about your 29 gallon with a coral beauty. I really really liked the set up, could you tell me about the coral beauty's coral nipping situation? I believe that it would be the same with a pygmy.

 

[Sharbuckles Reef]

I don't know how by I somehow crossed into a youtube video about your 29 gallon with a coral beauty. I really really liked the set up, could you tell me about the coral beauty's coral nipping situation? I believe that it would be the same with a pygmy.

Haha that was ages ago! It was a model citizen. Never nipped anything. Mind you I didn’t really keep any big fleshy LPS back then. I think it depends on the individual as a friend of mine also had a coral beauty that ate coral all the time. Definitely not a helpful response..

 

[fish farmer]

Hey guys, I am planning to add three more fishes into my 29 gallon tank that has been running for about a year now. I have 2 clownfish and one dottyback that is super harmless (other than when it killed a cleaner shrimp lol) but it is not territorial at all. I've been thinking to add more fish. I have one turbo snail, and one asterina snail for inverts. For coral I have a huge duncan, two hammers, GSP, two rhodactis mushrooms, a huge colony of pulsing xenia, one big flower pot where one of the clownfish loves to go into (I think maybe a relationship), one small zoanthid frag, and a gigantic leather coral.

Here is the things I want to add:

Fishes:
- Coral beauty angelfish, cherub angelfish, or white tailed pygmy angelfish
- Flame hawkfish (maybe a sixline wrasse)
- Valentini pufferfish

Inverts:
- Sponge
- One more big coral like a big mushroom in the back (sometime in future)
- Macroalgae for some spaces in the back between rocks.

On the bottom is a video for reference (that is prolly the best video ive ever taken of this tank).

Please tell me if these are fine additions.

Your tank is doing well now, no aggressions, why upset that balance?

I would normally suggest 4 fish for a 29 gallon, don't care how much filtration, give the fish space to grow. Are you planning to upgrade in a year or is this their forever home for 5+ years?

I had a single clown and a small mandarin in a 38 gallon, mandarin was doing extremely well. I added a purple dottyback, almost immediately it made the Mandy miserable, not allowing him to eat. I removed the dotty.

I currently have a 29 gallon, been set up since 2010 with pair of clowns and usually one or two other fish. I've done a TR Mandy and rainforest goby, but neither lasted too long due to both being pod competitors. I did a royal gramma which lasted several years with the clowns. I've also done sixline wrasses on two occasions, currently have one with the clowns for several years and he didn't allow a file fish to settle in when I tried a fourth fish.

 

[sam2216]

Your tank is doing well now, no aggressions, why upset that balance?

I would normally suggest 4 fish for a 29 gallon, don't care how much filtration, give the fish space to grow. Are you planning to upgrade in a year or is this their forever home for 5+ years?

I had a single clown and a small mandarin in a 38 gallon, mandarin was doing extremely well. I added a purple dottyback, almost immediately it made the Mandy miserable, not allowing him to eat. I removed the dotty.

I currently have a 29 gallon, been set up since 2010 with pair of clowns and usually one or two other fish. I've done a TR Mandy and rainforest goby, but neither lasted too long due to both being pod competitors. I did a royal gramma which lasted several years with the clowns. I've also done sixline wrasses on two occasions, currently have one with the clowns for several years and he didn't allow a file fish to settle in when I tried a fourth fish.

I made a bet with my dad where if I get a 1500 on SAT (even literally next year), I’ll get a 125 gallon tank. But in the future (3-5 years) we will definitely get atleast a 75 gallon in the long run.

 

[sam2216]

Hey guys, one more thing: I haven't had a QT set up, and I think I got lucky with the clowns and the dotty back. It's very easy to set up, and I think I will use it on my next fish: I think pygmy angel or yellow Watchman or Midas blenny (IDK still deciding) and the saddled Valentini puffer (for sure). But my main questions are: How long do they have to be in the QT, and what are the main parasites/diseases that they need to be treated and what are their cures?

And if I get a 75 or a 125, I will definitely NEED to use it for the tangs and other large fish since they are less immune to ich and other ****.

(I might just get one of the big containers that they sell in Walmart and add water from the tank and with more stuff)

 

[Schulks]

Treating fish can be very involved and you will have to read up on it. You are probably better off just using the quarantine as a quarantine and watching new fish for about a month before adding them to the main show. Set it up like another display with hiding spots and things to make the fish at home. Then use it to make sure they are eating well and not showing signs of any of the big things for at least 3 weeks maybe longer. The big things are Ick, velvet, brook, flukes, uronema. There are more fish specific things too. Just try to know what ick/velvet looks like because these are very common and potentially the worst. To treat these you use copper. You should learn to use prazi pro on the fish during observation and that will cover flukes which are the most common slow-killing parasite.

If you were to fully treat I would look up someone reputable and follow them. I used humblefish's resources and my process looks like this..
You need a hospital tank. You can't have rock, sand, or much of anything because they soak up the medications, especially copper. PVC things or a plastic aquarium decoration are fine and needed for the fish to hide/be comfortable. Treat with prazi pro and feed them powder praziquantel (or API General Cure or Fritz paracleanse) bound in food during this step. Binding medications requires a binder most people use seachem focus. Six days after the first prazi pro dose I do another. After 24 hours I transfer them to a different tank dosed with copper power @2.5 ppm. You can hurt fish by overdosing copper. You need a copper test kit and the only one that is worth buying is the hanna checker. I start feeding them metroplex bound food during copper treatment. The fish stay in 2.5 ppm copper for at least 30 days and you must transfer the fish out with as little water from the tank as possible. The treatment removes the parasite from the fish but it is still in the tank for a bit longer than 30 days. Prazi pro and copper cover a lot of parasites.

Most experienced fish doctors use different baths on brand new fish or when transferring fish to a new aquarium. Like methylene blue or freshwater. There is a lot to learn..
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EDIT: Very important to note that some fish will not tolerate copper or other medications you must look into each specific fish before treating and I am sure there are other things I could be forgetting. I haven't treated fish in about a year.

 

[sam2216]

And if I want two fish, do I put them both in QT at the same time or one at a time? I was thinking I could treat both of them at the same time.

 

[Cheese Griller]

I don't know how by I somehow crossed into a youtube video about your 29 gallon with a coral beauty. I really really liked the set up, could you tell me about the coral beauty's coral nipping situation? I believe that it would be the same with a pygmy.

I would not recommend a coral beauty in a 29 gallon. They get too large and too active for a tank that size, especially with the fish you already have in the tank. A pygmy/whitetail/flameback are the only angels I would entertain keeping in a 29.

 

[sam2216]

I would not recommend a coral beauty in a 29 gallon. They get too large and too active for a tank that size, especially with the fish you already have in the tank. A pygmy/whitetail/flameback are the only angels I would entertain keeping in a 29.

Is that the flameback angel in your pfp?

 

[Cheese Griller]

Is that the flameback angel in your pfp?

it is, that picture was actually taken when I had it in a 29.

 

[sam2216]

it is, that picture was actually taken when I had it in a 29.

Cool, I was debating over pygmy, whitetail, coral beauty, and the flame back. But now the coral beauty is most likely a no. Also how was he with your other fishes?

 

[Cheese Griller]

Cool, I was debating over pygmy, whitetail, coral beauty, and the flame back. But now the coral beauty is most likely a no. Also how was he with your other fishes?

I would recommend adding any angel last. I added my helfriechi after the angel and she was agressive for the first day but calmed down. I also had lots of rockwork so she was busy combing it for things to eat, which definitely helped with the agression.

 

[sam2216]

I would recommend adding any angel last. I added my helfriechi after the angel and she was agressive for the first day but calmed down. I also had lots of rockwork so she was busy combing it for things to eat, which definitely helped with the agression.

Are they good at eating algae by themselves, or do I need to get the algae clips? Also, when people say to add another fish before, does that mean a few days, a few weeks, or even a few hours before the other? I will be adding a Valentine before the angel. Sorry for all the questions!

 

[Cheese Griller]

Are they good at eating algae by themselves, or do I need to get the algae clips? Also, when people say to add another fish before, does that mean a few days, a few weeks, or even a few hours before the other? I will be adding a Valentine before the angel. Sorry for all the questions!

They aren't huge algae eaters, so no need for a clip. And they usually mean a few weeks. Pick one of the valentini of angel, adding both would be too many large fish for your tank size.

 

[sam2216]

They aren't huge algae eaters, so no need for a clip. And they usually mean a few weeks. Pick one of the valentini of angel, adding both would be too many large fish for your tank size.

Your right, we talked about this. I forgot about that thread.

 

[Cheese Griller]

Your right, we talked about this. I forgot about that thread.

No worries!