So I jumped on the Jecod/Jebao DMP-40 train. These are my thoughts:

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So I jumped on the Jecod/Jebao DMP-40 train. These are my thoughts:

The backend:
I originally designed my plumbing system specifically to accommodate Ecotech MP-60 pumps, should I or when I needed them in the future. I have always loved the Ecotech design while being a vocal advocate for more practical pumps that deliver on longevity and quality for the price one pays. My opinion of Ecotech being that they do deliver nice quality products, the price point has always been lofty. Much like most quality things, eventually some flattery will come along in the form of imitation or replication.

From my perspective, the magnetic coupling of wet and dry sides coalescing into a single unit has always been the appeal of the Vortec pumps. The countless modes of wher wher, wizz, wizz never added any value to me.

As for my experience, I have only ever owned a pair of MP-10s with the white controllers and
WiFi so I could link them together. They were quiet for the time I had them but they would barley stick to ⅜” glass. They would fall off randomly and the cords would pull out of the body. I mean they give you tiedowns and zip ties to clamp down your pumps in case this happens; you would think the cord that they tell you to tie it up by would hold the weight of the pump when it does let go but no.

I did not let the falling off of the glass deter me. I did allow it to influence my future purchases. The MP-10s let me down in the glass thickness department, I wasn’t going to let that happen again.
My tank has ¾” thick glass. So for me a couple MP-40s were not going to cut it. I needed MP-60s. I needed the MP-60s for their strength and ability to hold onto the glass, not for the flow.

Getting to the point:
I ordered two DMP-40 pumps which claim to work with 19-21mm glass thickness. That is 0.748-0.827in in freedom units. There is a jump up in glass thickness from the DMP-30 to the DMP-40. All of these pumps include suction cups on both the wet and dry sides.

I thought that the DMP-40 would have the same clamping power as the Vortech MP-60 based solely on the glass thickness ratings.

My expectations were too lofty for this potentially great pump.

I have been fiddling with them for a few hours and they must be perfectly aligned or they do not function at all. When perfectly aligned they fall off when changing speeds. I have to start them at 30% and ramp them up, I can not start them at say 70%.
On thinner glass, they may work perfectly, but on my tank they fall short.

I got an error… Er03… no big deal, let me check the manual…
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No joke, the manual skips right over Er03. I am pretty sure this means some kind of magnetic coupling misalignment.

On thinner glass, they may work perfectly, but on my tank they fall short.

Flow:
The flow is nice, powerful and wide. I would recommend (provided they stay on the glass).

I am still not going to buy two MP-60 pumps even at 20% off right now.

If anyone is looking, a nice new set of DMP-40 pumps will check most of the boxes.
 

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So I jumped on the Jecod/Jebao DMP-40 train. These are my thoughts:

The backend:
I originally designed my plumbing system specifically to accommodate Ecotech MP-60 pumps, should I or when I needed them in the future. I have always loved the Ecotech design while being a vocal advocate for more practical pumps that deliver on longevity and quality for the price one pays. My opinion of Ecotech being that they do deliver nice quality products, the price point has always been lofty. Much like most quality things, eventually some flattery will come along in the form of imitation or replication.

From my perspective, the magnetic coupling of wet and dry sides coalescing into a single unit has always been the appeal of the Vortec pumps. The countless modes of wher wher, wizz, wizz never added any value to me.

As for my experience, I have only ever owned a pair of MP-10s with the white controllers and
WiFi so I could link them together. They were quiet for the time I had them but they would barley stick to ⅜” glass. They would fall off randomly and the cords would pull out of the body. I mean they give you tiedowns and zip ties to clamp down your pumps in case this happens; you would think the cord that they tell you to tie it up by would hold the weight of the pump when it does let go but no.

I did not let the falling off of the glass deter me. I did allow it to influence my future purchases. The MP-10s let me down in the glass thickness department, I wasn’t going to let that happen again.
My tank has ¾” thick glass. So for me a couple MP-40s were not going to cut it. I needed MP-60s. I needed the MP-60s for their strength and ability to hold onto the glass, not for the flow.

Getting to the point:
I ordered two DMP-40 pumps which claim to work with 19-21mm glass thickness. That is 0.748-0.827in in freedom units. There is a jump up in glass thickness from the DMP-30 to the DMP-40. All of these pumps include suction cups on both the wet and dry sides.

I thought that the DMP-40 would have the same clamping power as the Vortech MP-60 based solely on the glass thickness ratings.

My expectations were too lofty for this potentially great pump.

I have been fiddling with them for a few hours and they must be perfectly aligned or they do not function at all. When perfectly aligned they fall off when changing speeds. I have to start them at 30% and ramp them up, I can not start them at say 70%.
On thinner glass, they may work perfectly, but on my tank they fall short.

I got an error… Er03… no big deal, let me check the manual…
AD_4nXeS4mTmFtdPTV1kzJjHBX2J1EJ_Jbksav9p1PEs1PBmwc0U2r8dBgURvG8PLCRk8-ZOXYwii3PSDdNt9JRj5UPL4qfYM_rXGkkZ3nuQ0Vpsa0B3Bk3mGdJTBG8mowJHm49G-Oh_DBcs04yCjv-CRS-gLkqr
AD_4nXfAudntq4ciFewtiTR3Y-9wFXpTxmZVmRPXr6uVsTZJ-gSTNPOIv9eU0YCvgcnyq9hTf6sx1jT6SceAF06k31lT8UeMTd_gvP4ySG1NfJddKgXuGfWPn5KaBB_R19A1Yigo3qjzcA2aTWaX7d1ogbc45fd_

No joke, the manual skips right over Er03. I am pretty sure this means some kind of magnetic coupling misalignment.

On thinner glass, they may work perfectly, but on my tank they fall short.

Flow:
The flow is nice, powerful and wide. I would recommend (provided they stay on the glass).

I am still not going to buy two MP-60 pumps even at 20% off right now.

If anyone is looking, a nice new set of DMP-40 pumps will check most of the boxes.
Interesting.. I was never going to buy from them because of lack of support etc. So the equipment itself is pretty good?
 

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Hey you look familiar. Sean…Clark? Is that really you? After all these years?
 

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Perhaps someone, maybe an engineer, who has looked in person at the Vortech or these jebao wet side/dry side pumps can help explain why rotational orientation is so important for something that is intended to spin with something else that is intended to spin? it just doesn't seem intuitive to me.

Couldn't, or shouldn't, they just be designed to magnetically align? Just like ordinary magnets?
 

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Legitimately just had the exact same issue for the exact same reason. Error 3 trying with 1" acrylic. Guessing I'm getting an MP60 too
 
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Interesting.. I was never going to buy from them because of lack of support etc. So the equipment itself is pretty good?
They do seem like quality pumps. Time will tell.
Wow. Nice manual.
It really was a fun read with some of the translation. What it lacks in helpfulness it makes up for with entertainment.
Hey you look familiar. Sean…Clark? Is that really you? After all these years?
Shhhhh!
Perhaps someone, maybe an engineer, who has looked in person at the Vortech or these jebao wet side/dry side pumps can help explain why rotational orientation is so important for something that is intended to spin with something else that is intended to spin? it just doesn't seem intuitive to me.

Couldn't, or shouldn't, they just be designed to magnetically align? Just like ordinary magnets?
It is more that they need to be exactly concentric with each other, which gets tricky with a black background so you can't see the other side. The limited magnet strength at that distance and the super aggressive suction cups that want to aggressively adhere instantly make it harder than one would think it should be.
Legitimately just had the exact same issue for the exact same reason. Error 3 trying with 1" acrylic. Guessing I'm getting an MP60 too
I am pretty sure that my wishful thinking just has me asking a little too much of them.
 

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It is more that they need to be exactly concentric with each other, which gets tricky with a black background so you can't see the other side. The limited magnet strength at that distance and the super aggressive suction cups that want to aggressively adhere instantly make it harder than one would think it should be.

Ah, thanks, that makes at least a little more sense. I though it was rotational orientation folks were talking about, but if it is concentric issues, and the magnet grabs and holds it from moving into perfect concentric positioning, I understand.
 

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They do seem like quality pumps. Time will tell.

It really was a fun read with some of the translation. What it lacks in helpfulness it makes up for with entertainment.

Shhhhh!

It is more that they need to be exactly concentric with each other, which gets tricky with a black background so you can't see the other side. The limited magnet strength at that distance and the super aggressive suction cups that want to aggressively adhere instantly make it harder than one would think it should be.

I am pretty sure that my wishful thinking just has me asking a little too much of them.
Hi Sean, Hope you are doing ok.

I have a random question. is there any chance you know the measurments for the controller please ?
I have ordered 2 pumps but need to make a cutout in my controller board for them. I cant find the size listed anywhere.

If its a paint please dont worry about it but thought its worth an ask. Thank you again

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