agreed we need a range.
let's say .018 raised to .024, that's a fair representation of what the bulk of new tank owners encounter, it's listed that way on hundreds of our cycling posts. thank you for responding
within that tight range what's your view, I'm specifically saying it's killing some clownfish every once in a while and that cycling is getting blamed for it. I'm saying the only video we've seen so far is a stress marker video.
I do not hold Paul or Atoll in a special regard (immune to critique) until they manage work threads, a simple collection of everyone's tank winding up like theirs including disease loss rates, coral growth rates and lack of invasion. I have for sure seen that their home reefs are at the apex of what's possible in reefing, acknowledged.
Paul and Atoll have 2 of the best home reefs I've ever seen, I value longevity above topshelf coral collections on instragram. They're top two best reefs I know of.
is it possible to admire someone's home reef, and then feel like proof transmissibility of that outcome is lacking when I can't see 1500 reefs running their method in a clean arrangement?
I find Atoll's and Paul's home reef 100% great but I find their ability to get the same results for others not as great, to the point I doubt a lot of the info said especially regarding disease. that leads to further doubt in what they're saying about salinity, because it contrasts from what Jay writes. he says to be careful, and 100% of Jay's work is outbound. his whole forum is a work thread.
From our cycling work threads, it's my opinion that skipping acclimation in these barren, hospital-type (uninviting) not fed well no hiding place new systems is killing a small % of fish with the seven point acclimation shock as the final insult.
the tipping point
and I want that changed to match the changes we're applying for cycling science in the hobby (aiming folks to disease prep reading before they learn invented fear of ammonia control issues, we now want them factoring acclimation safely too, not bag dripping)
I wanted Atoll to simply differentiate those types of tanks from his own example, because his readers hold him in high regard due to his noted aquarium quality.
work thread patterns emerging are opposite from advice in this thread, although any long-term established reef has such variables aligned that the guaranteed osmotic shock from a seven point jump won't be anyone's tipping point. context matters.
I got none of this detail from the opening post from Atoll. I got the direct hint that anyone could skip acclimation altogether.
be willing to evolve + a reef sage, that's what obi wan would do. advise the masses to have a smart form of salinity acclimation based on anticipated needs for the hobby
let's say .018 raised to .024, that's a fair representation of what the bulk of new tank owners encounter, it's listed that way on hundreds of our cycling posts. thank you for responding
within that tight range what's your view, I'm specifically saying it's killing some clownfish every once in a while and that cycling is getting blamed for it. I'm saying the only video we've seen so far is a stress marker video.
I do not hold Paul or Atoll in a special regard (immune to critique) until they manage work threads, a simple collection of everyone's tank winding up like theirs including disease loss rates, coral growth rates and lack of invasion. I have for sure seen that their home reefs are at the apex of what's possible in reefing, acknowledged.
Paul and Atoll have 2 of the best home reefs I've ever seen, I value longevity above topshelf coral collections on instragram. They're top two best reefs I know of.
is it possible to admire someone's home reef, and then feel like proof transmissibility of that outcome is lacking when I can't see 1500 reefs running their method in a clean arrangement?
I find Atoll's and Paul's home reef 100% great but I find their ability to get the same results for others not as great, to the point I doubt a lot of the info said especially regarding disease. that leads to further doubt in what they're saying about salinity, because it contrasts from what Jay writes. he says to be careful, and 100% of Jay's work is outbound. his whole forum is a work thread.
From our cycling work threads, it's my opinion that skipping acclimation in these barren, hospital-type (uninviting) not fed well no hiding place new systems is killing a small % of fish with the seven point acclimation shock as the final insult.
the tipping point
and I want that changed to match the changes we're applying for cycling science in the hobby (aiming folks to disease prep reading before they learn invented fear of ammonia control issues, we now want them factoring acclimation safely too, not bag dripping)
I wanted Atoll to simply differentiate those types of tanks from his own example, because his readers hold him in high regard due to his noted aquarium quality.
work thread patterns emerging are opposite from advice in this thread, although any long-term established reef has such variables aligned that the guaranteed osmotic shock from a seven point jump won't be anyone's tipping point. context matters.
I got none of this detail from the opening post from Atoll. I got the direct hint that anyone could skip acclimation altogether.
be willing to evolve + a reef sage, that's what obi wan would do. advise the masses to have a smart form of salinity acclimation based on anticipated needs for the hobby
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