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I am about a year into my 100g as a brand-new reefer. I have had problems with GHA on and off the past year, impacting my skills at keeping many coral (have zoas and GSP right now). I have the following fish doing well in my tank and generally getting along (listed in order I introduced them). I do have a decent amount of rockwork for fish to hide in:

1. 2x Midnight Lightning Clownfish
2. Sailfin/Algae Blenny
3. Aiptasia Eating Filefish
4. Royal Gramma Basslet
5. Yellow Watchman/Prawn Goby

I am looking to add so more fish, in this order:

6. 1x Lyretail Anthias
7. Flame Hawkfish
8. Bristletooth, tomini, or powdered Brown Tang
9. Yellow Tang
10. One-Spot Foxface

Thanks for any feedback. Do you recommend different or additional fish?

Cheers,
M.Y.
Personally I’d skip the tangs and just get the Foxface. Definitely don’t get the powder brown tang. Definitely will not work in that size tank. Also make sure to qt them or get them qt’d as they are the most common disease vector.

Hawkfish can be aggressive and go after gobies.

I’d definitely go with a couple wrasse over the tangs.

For the GHA get some urchins and or Mexican turbo snails.
 

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Hi all. Looking for some stocking advice- got back into reefing recently after a hiatus of a couple of decades. What do y'all think about this stocking plan for my 85 gal Cade fish/softie focused tank? Parameters are holding well- 35 ppt, <5 nitrate, 8.1 pH (not worrying about Ca/Mag/alk yet without stonies)

Current inhabitants:
3 Banggai cardinals (1-1.5")
2 Percula clowns (1.25")
3 Nassarius snails for leftover/sand
1 Stomatella snail (hitchhiker)
1 colony purple star polyp (green center, neat color mix)
1 colony purple xenia with a purple Kenya tree in the middle
Various pods

Planned fish additions (in rough order):
1 watchman goby (yellow or diamond)
1 firefish or neon blue goby
1 blenny (midas or harptail)
2-3 wrasses (1 each or melanurus, red-lined/biocellatus, and a fairy or flasher)
1 coral beauty (my wife's pick)

When algae growth picks up (still not much yet):
1 lawnmower blenny
1 bristletooth tang (yellow eye Kole, tomini, or squaretail; also my wife's pick)

Planned inverts:
2-3 peppermint shrimp
2 skunk cleaner shrimp

Will likely add some more softies as I go. I'll also add to the CUC as needed; some cerith and astraea snails, probably not hermits. And I'll likely supplement the pods depending on how the tank population goes.

Finally, back in the day, I picked up a lot of diversity from the fresh live rock and supplemented with some purchases from IndoPacific (brittle stars, worms, feather dusters, etc.). Any thoughts on the merits of other additions for diversity vs. risk of bad hitchhikers?

Thanks all! Really enjoying reading all the threads; reminds me of WetWebMedia in the old days.
 

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Hi all. Looking for some stocking advice- got back into reefing recently after a hiatus of a couple of decades. What do y'all think about this stocking plan for my 85 gal Cade fish/softie focused tank? Parameters are holding well- 35 ppt, <5 nitrate, 8.1 pH (not worrying about Ca/Mag/alk yet without stonies)

Current inhabitants:
3 Banggai cardinals (1-1.5")
2 Percula clowns (1.25")
3 Nassarius snails for leftover/sand
1 Stomatella snail (hitchhiker)
1 colony purple star polyp (green center, neat color mix)
1 colony purple xenia with a purple Kenya tree in the middle
Various pods

Planned fish additions (in rough order):
1 watchman goby (yellow or diamond)
Yellow is easier. Diamond needs "dirty" sand as they only eat tiny critters in the sand.
1 firefish or neon blue goby
Good though you need a lid for the first.
1 blenny (midas or harptail)
Good
2-3 wrasses (1 each or melanurus, red-lined/biocellatus, and a fairy or flasher)
I'd skip the melanarus and get 2 flashers or fairies or one of both. Melanurus are more aggressive then most Halichoeres wrasse.
1 coral beauty (my wife's pick)
May eat your corals but are worth the rick IMO
When algae growth picks up (still not much yet):
1 lawnmower blenny
Good
1 bristletooth tang (yellow eye Kole, tomini, or squaretail; also my wife's pick)
It will have to be your last pick as they are aggressive.
Planned inverts:
2-3 peppermint shrimp
2 skunk cleaner shrimp
Good!
Will likely add some more softies as I go. I'll also add to the CUC as needed; some cerith and astraea snails, probably not hermits. And I'll likely supplement the pods depending on how the tank population goes.

Finally, back in the day, I picked up a lot of diversity from the fresh live rock and supplemented with some purchases from IndoPacific (brittle stars, worms, feather dusters, etc.). Any thoughts on the merits of other additions for diversity vs. risk of bad hitchhikers?
I prefer diversity to the risk as I think a healthy tank is diverse.
Thanks all! Really enjoying reading all the threads; reminds me of WetWebMedia in the old days.
No problem. I enjoy the puzzle!
 

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Wow this thread is as long as the wrasse lovers! LOL

Looking for some help.
I would like some wrasse for my 150g build. 60"x24"x25"
I need to let my wife pick out some fish. I need some of the types to let her go through and pick them out. Of coarse, final decision by me. I'm thinking 4ish maybe 5 fish?? Don't care how big or small.
They need to leave my coral banded shrimp and blood shrimp alone and not touch my maxima clam!
Also have snails, hermits, and serpent stars and a biscuit star.

Currently I have;
Purple tang
Pair of clowns in my bta
RGx2
Algae blenny
Springeri damsel x5

Definatly also want;
Pair of genicanthus angels
Rabbit fish
 

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Looking for guidance on New tank stocking plan and order.

Display tank - 54”x30”x24” ~150gal
Sump - 75 gal
External Refugium - 20 gal

Particularly interested in pairs and symbiotic relationship species.

Pair of Clownfish
Yellow Watchman Goby / Pistol Shrimp Pair
Pair of Bluethroat Triggers - eventually…. I love triggers and these seem to be somewhat reef compatible.
Pair of Mandarinfish - once copepods are well established in Refugium

One Spot Foxface
Midas Blenny

Melanurus Wrasse or other…
Royal Gramma

Flame and/or Longnose Hawkfish
Purple Tang
Yellow Tang / Chevron Tang / Atlantic Blue
Orange Spot Rabbitfish

CUC

Corals - once tank established
 

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Looking for guidance on New tank stocking plan and order.

Display tank - 54”x30”x24” ~150gal
Sump - 75 gal
External Refugium - 20 gal

Particularly interested in pairs and symbiotic relationship species.

Pair of Clownfish
Yellow Watchman Goby / Pistol Shrimp Pair
Pair of Bluethroat Triggers - eventually…. I love triggers and these seem to be somewhat reef compatible.
Pair of Mandarinfish - once copepods are well established in Refugium

One Spot Foxface
Midas Blenny

Melanurus Wrasse or other…
Royal Gramma

Flame and/or Longnose Hawkfish
Purple Tang
Yellow Tang / Chevron Tang / Atlantic Blue
Orange Spot Rabbitfish

CUC

Corals - once tank established
I don't know about the triggers, but my issue would be the melanarus wrasse and the mandarins, unless the mandarins eat frozen the melanarus/coris wrasse will steal all its food
 

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My old tank cracked its seam, i saved my fish, but downsized the tank to a 2 foot cube.
I've kept my clownfish pair and Tomini tang (its still small so its currently okay, but one day will go)

Thinking of adding more fish sometime soon,
My thoughts are one or two of the following
Fire fish (probably purple) or dartfish
Hawkfish,
Some goby? I dont know many that would work
Blenny (if i don't get one now ill get one to replace the tang when it outgrows the tank)
Wrasse,
Open to other little fish ideas that would work,
 

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Looking for guidance on New tank stocking plan and order.

Display tank - 54”x30”x24” ~150gal
Sump - 75 gal
External Refugium - 20 gal

Particularly interested in pairs and symbiotic relationship species.

Pair of Clownfish
Good
Yellow Watchman Goby / Pistol Shrimp Pair
The pistol might be eaten by the trigger
Pair of Bluethroat Triggers - eventually…. I love triggers and these seem to be somewhat reef compatible.
Definitely a last fish. They are very entertaining fish but are still fairly aggressive and can out compete other fish for food.
Pair of Mandarinfish - once copepods are well established in Refugium
Consider biota ones. They do sell mated pairs.
One Spot Foxface
Good
Midas Blenny
Good but consider a tilefish too. They look similar but tiles are far more interactive if more difficult.
Melanurus Wrasse or other…
Good but if you want a pair you may consider a pair of leopards or tamarin wrasse. Also consider fairy wrasse. You could get two similar species and they will display more.
Royal Gramma
Good
Flame and/or Longnose Hawkfish
Again might go after your pistol shrimp and goby but good otherwise
Purple Tang
Yellow Tang / Chevron Tang / Atlantic Blue
I don’t do tangs but obviously add late and QT. Acantharus tangs like the Atlantic blue are especially ich magnets.
Orange Spot Rabbitfish
They get big but better than a tang imo.
CUC

Corals - once tank established
If I were to do a pair themed tank I’d skip the tangs and maybe the triggers and do similar species of wrasse. Pairs of gobies. A pair of engineer gobies maybe. Genicanthus angelfish etc.

Either way you must add a pair of Genicanthus angels as they are reef safe and a great fish to pair.
 

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I don't know about the triggers, but my issue would be the melanarus wrasse and the mandarins, unless the mandarins eat frozen the melanarus/coris wrasse will steal all its food
First a melanarus wrasse and other Halichoeres wrasse eat larger inverts then the copepods a mandarin would eat. I currently have 10 wrasse and have had a pair of mandarins with them for two years now. All are fat.

Also I’m guessing you have no idea what a Coris wrasse is. I have written an article about it but Coris wrasse are giant not reef safe wrasse while fish like the yellow wrasse, Halichoeres chrysus (unfortunately often misnamed as the yellow Cori’s wrasse) are not remotely closely related and are great reef safe fish.
 

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First a melanarus wrasse and other Halichoeres wrasse eat larger inverts then the copepods a mandarin would eat. I currently have 10 wrasse and have had a pair of mandarins with them for two years now. All are fat.

Also I’m guessing you have no idea what a Coris wrasse is. I have written an article about it but Coris wrasse are giant not reef safe wrasse while fish like the yellow wrasse, Halichoeres chrysus (unfortunately often misnamed as the yellow Cori’s wrasse) are not remotely closely related and are great reef safe fish.
Interesting. I had a green coris wrasse (halichoeres) and a melanarus wrasse and they would dig through the sand to find copepods to eat, they would even go for the not visible ones when i dosed the tank with them a few times.
 

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My old tank cracked its seam, i saved my fish, but downsized the tank to a 2 foot cube.
I've kept my clownfish pair and Tomini tang (its still small so its currently okay, but one day will go)

Thinking of adding more fish sometime soon,
My thoughts are one or two of the following
Fire fish (probably purple) or dartfish
Good so long as you have a lid but may be bullied by the tang as they are very shy.
Hawkfish,
They sometimes attack gobies so be very careful if you want both.
Some goby? I dont know many that would work
Read this:
Blenny (if i don't get one now ill get one to replace the tang when it outgrows the tank)
Basically all will work but if you want one that eats algae then look into the Salarias genus. AKA lawnmower, starry, etc
Wrasse like long tanks so you are limited to possum (Wetmorella), pink streak (Pseudocheilinops attaenia), and lined (pseudocheilinus) wrasse. However the last genus can be very aggressive so i suggest a possum or pink streak wrasse.
Open to other little fish ideas that would work,
Basslet,
Cardinal
Pygmy waspfish are fun if more difficult
A different type of blenny
 

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Interesting. I had a green coris wrasse (halichoeres) and a melanarus wrasse and they would dig through the sand to find copepods to eat, they would even go for the not visible ones when i dosed the tank with them a few times.
They will eat larger ones but (with the exception of the larger mandarins like the scooters) the inverts the two fish go after are of a different size and thus competition is minimal.

And yes the jade wrasse, Halichoeres chloropterus is not a coris wrasse though it is also not usually reef safe due to it being far larger then most Halichoeres.
 

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Good so long as you have a lid but may be bullied by the tang as they are very shy.

They sometimes attack gobies so be very careful if you want both.

Read this:

Basically all will work but if you want one that eats algae then look into the Salarias genus. AKA lawnmower, starry, etc

Wrasse like long tanks so you are limited to possum (Wetmorella), pink streak (Pseudocheilinops attaenia), and lined (pseudocheilinus) wrasse. However the last genus can be very aggressive so i suggest a possum or pink streak wrasse.

Basslet,
Cardinal
Pygmy waspfish are fun if more difficult
A different type of blenny
Some great points thanks.

I totally forgot, I'm going sandless on the new tank (sick of sand on all my rocks thanks to my old wrasses).
The other two fish i was thinking of were a tiger blenny and or an assessor.

My tang is very chill actually, my old tank had a firefish (lost in a power outage during a holiday) and he would actually hang around the tang at times
 

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Some great points thanks.

I totally forgot, I'm going sandless on the new tank (sick of sand on all my rocks thanks to my old wrasses).
All my wrasse suggestions do not need sand.
The other two fish i was thinking of were a tiger blenny and or an assessor.
These should both work.
 

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They will eat larger ones but (with the exception of the larger mandarins like the scooters) the inverts the two fish go after are of a different size and thus competition is minimal.

And yes the jade wrasse, Halichoeres chloropterus is not a coris wrasse though it is also not usually reef safe due to it being far larger then most Halichoeres.
Interesting, i was just following live aquaria and its other naming.
But yep that was it, he was fine with corals, besides flipping them over at times to attack whatever was on the bottom of them
 

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We could use some help
The tank is a Tideline aio 62 gal lagoon tank. The display is probably closer to 48 gal
48.5 x 15D x 15.75” T

We were hoping to do a Clownfish pair Nem tank with some of the following fish.
Here’s what we were thinking

It seems the Hawkish may be a problem

How will the following do in a tank with Anenome?

Pair of Clownfish
Blue spotted Jawfish
Diamond Goby
Flame Hawfish?
Royal Gramma
Mandarin

Red flame Shrimp along with cuc Hermit crabs snails etc

What do you think?
 

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We could use some help
The tank is a Tideline aio 62 gal lagoon tank. The display is probably closer to 48 gal
48.5 x 15D x 15.75” T

We were hoping to do a Clownfish pair Nem tank with some of the following fish.
Here’s what we were thinking

It seems the Hawkish may be a problem

How will the following do in a tank with Anenome?

Pair of Clownfish
Good
Blue spotted Jawfish
Need a colder tank and a very deep sand bed. A goldhead can do better in warmer tanks but still need the sand. I’d do a goby instead.
Diamond Goby
Can be difficult. Read this and get a not sand sifting goby:
Flame Hawfish?
Can eat shrimp and attack gobies. The long nose is the most peaceful.
Royal Gramma
Great
Either let you tank age or get captive bred like from biota
Red flame Shrimp along with cuc Hermit crabs snails etc

What do you think?
Maybe consider a small wrasse like a radiant or a blue flasher. Otherwise just read my comments above.
 

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Thinking about stock lists for a future rsr250 (DT is ~55g roughly 36” x 20” x 21”)

I will have a normal sand bed, planned on mixed reef lps+sps

Definite wants:
2x clown
Some sort of wrasse (I used to have a six line, but they are hit and miss in terms of aggressiveness, maybe a flasher wrasse pair?)
Possible additions:
Goby of some sort..any recommendations?
I really wanted a tang, but even for a tomini tang I hear really should be 75g+
Royal gramma
Firefish

Probably typical cuc, likely no shrimp
 

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Can I add a black tip reef shark with my clown goby?

In all seriousness, does anyone have experience with a clown trigger or a humuhumunukunukuapua`a trigger with small fish? e.g. damsels, clowns, etc...
 

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