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For the 3 most recent deaths there has been no copper present. I have used cupramine in the past though. Ammonia alert is bright yellow.
Just furan 2 and prazipro, but not anytime close together. The larger fairies were from saltwaterfish.com. The mccoskers was divers den. I have a flame wrasse and longfin fairy that are doing great in qt as well.
Just furan 2 and prazipro, but not anytime close together. The larger fairies were from saltwaterfish.com. The mccoskers was divers den. I have a flame wrasse and longfin fairy that are doing great in qt as well.
This is completely anecdotal but it seems like larger fairy wrasse have these issues more frequently than smaller ones.
Also I just thought of something -- do you have a lid on this tank I assume for wrasse?
If it's not a softer mesh or something "soft" (ie wire mesh, plexi, glass, etc) then I bet it's spine damage. Wrasse are very flighty especially for the first few months. My fairies would startle when I came down the stairs (they were at the bottom of the stairs in my basement) and leap out and hit the plexiglas lids hard and this caused two of them to die in my case. They behave much like wrasse with swimbladder issues.
For the longest time my dt was parasite free and so that's where most of my fish were. I kept trying to add more wrasses, but they all died of this same issue. When my dt got infected from a coral, I put all existing fish in qt. This was about two weeks ago. Exquite died tonight , but all other fish, including two other wrasses, look fine.So you had a bacterial infection and all fish went into the tank to be treated for that and subsequently they all died of what looked like a bladder issue? It sounds more like there is still an infection spreading through the fish.
Yeah it does seem like the larger wrasses are the ones that give me more trouble. I have two smaller ones in there right now doing fine. But it's just weird how no matter who I order through they can't really swim, right out of the bag.This is completely anecdotal but it seems like larger fairy wrasse have these issues more frequently than smaller ones.
Also I just thought of something -- do you have a lid on this tank I assume for wrasse?
If it's not a softer mesh or something "soft" (ie wire mesh, plexi, glass, etc) then I bet it's spine damage. Wrasse are very flighty especially for the first few months. My fairies would startle when I came down the stairs (they were at the bottom of the stairs in my basement) and leap out and hit the plexiglas lids hard and this caused two of them to die in my case. They behave much like wrasse with swimbladder issues.
Right out of the bag may be spinal injury from the supplier - they often have plexi lids covering those tanks as well.Yeah it does seem like the larger wrasses are the ones that give me more trouble. I have two smaller ones in there right now doing fine. But it's just weird how no matter who I order through they can't really swim, right out of the bag.
I guess I'm glad to hear it's common. Most of the time it is right out of the bag, but the exquisite confuses me. I had him for awhile, and he just started hiding a few days ago. Then today he was laying on his side, followed by spurts of absolutely spastic swimming. Then he died. And his body is curved.Right out of the bag may be spinal injury from the supplier - they often have plexi lids covering those tanks as well.
If they swim like their tail had an anvil on it and they struggle to right themselves sometimes it's probably the spinal injuries.
Otherwise, it may well be improper "decompression" of fish taken from deeper waters, causing swim bladder issues.
I could also be off base but this is common with wrasse.
The exquisite does not sound like a swim bladder infection.I guess I'm glad to hear it's common. Most of the time it is right out of the bag, but the exquisite confuses me. I had him for awhile, and he just started hiding a few days ago. Then today he was laying on his side, followed by spurts of absolutely spastic swimming. Then he died. And his body is curved.
I have the same question(s).You mention the fish having trouble swimming. Please describe as best as possible their swimming behavior. Was there a lot of lying down? Was it head pointed up or down? Tail pointed up or down? Is it darting quickly? Swimming in circles or doing barrel rolls? Twitching?
The only times I have seen problems with wrasses and Prazi is if the infestation was so bad that the flukes falling off left extensive damage. Prazi is generally considered pretty gentle and is recommended in almost every wrasse qt protocol.I treated my tank with PraziPro for a fluke infection on one fish I could not catch. He is now doing fine but one of my wrasse, who was not infected, is displaying the same behavior as yours and is slowly dying. I am almost positive the PraziPro did this. If you search around the forums you will find that wrasse's and PraziPro don't mix.
The only times I have seen problems with wrasses and Prazi is if the infestation was so bad that the flukes falling off left extensive damage. Prazi is generally considered pretty gentle and is recommended in almost every wrasse qt protocol.