Taken from the wild . . .

[Lissa1987]

He had said park rangers which is why I referred to them. Now if it is FWC then that is a different matter entirely. I used to do a tiny amount of work with them when I lived in the Florida Keys (my then employer handles the manatee rescues there so partners with FWC). But yeah a park ranger at something like Bahia Honda State Park would not be a source I would trust on the matter.

And Im sorry, I may be biased as I honestly have never met a "park ranger" in all of my trips/collections/simply fishing in my area. Maybe there are some that I just haven't experienced, but everyone I have come across was FWC.

 

[ScottR]

It doesn’t matter. If it was in captivity you run the risk of it harming other animals or the ecosystem as a whole as the unknown risks are not readily apparent.

I agree. Quarantining an animal doesn’t make it disease free. You’d have to test it and cure it of whatever it may have. And you don’t even know what you’re looking for. You’re potentially endangering millions of other animals and an entire ecosystem just to save one animal that probably will die when put back.

 

[Alex.M.]

I agree. Quarantining an animal doesn’t make it disease free. You’d have to test it and cure it of whatever it may have. And you don’t even know what you’re looking for. You’re potentially endangering millions of other animals and an entire ecosystem just to save one animal that probably will die when put back.

I agree with you. I would never personally return an animal to the wild. But I will let trained professionals who have more experience, knowledge and better treatments available to them take care of that. They know what they are doing.

 

[Peter Clark]

And Im sorry, I may be biased as I honestly have never met a "park ranger" in all of my trips/collections/simply fishing in my area. Maybe there are some that I just haven't experienced, but everyone I have come across was FWC.

Florida State Park Rangers are a part of the Department of Environmental Protection while FWC is it's on law enforcement agency. FWC does a lot of patrolling in state parks though (and just about everywhere outside the parks too) so it is very easy to mistake them for rangers. So two different type of officials working in the same area, just with different focuses. For your interests, it makes way more sense to interact with FWC.

And that example park I mentioned Bahia Honda, it is a state park in the Keys (best beach in the Keys) so would have both type of officials patrolling it.

 

[ScottR]

I agree with you. I would never personally return an animal to the wild. But I will let trained professionals who have more experience, knowledge and better treatments available to them take care of that. They know what they are doing.

I would almost rather donate it to an aquarium. (Like theme park kind). They do lots of conservation work (typically). I’m sure they’d be the experts as they hire marine biologists that have many years of training and experience.

 

[Lissa1987]

Goodnight everyone. I appreciate the gained knowledge and respect everyones opinions!

 

[Lissa1987]

Goodnight everyone. I appreciate the gained knowledge and respect everyones opinions!

My poodle is calling and if anyone has or knows Poodles (standard) they will know I must go...lol

 

[Hemmdog]

I want to know more about this fish farm with no pumps idea.

 

[Bryson.bobby]

I would almost rather donate it to an aquarium. (Like theme park kind). They do lots of conservation work (typically). I’m sure they’d be the experts as they hire marine biologists that have many years of training and experience.

I agree

 

[Hemmdog]

I agree

We all secretly love SeaWorld I think... lol. The whale stuff is a little dicey.

 

[Lissa1987]

I want to know more about this fish farm with no pumps idea.

Omg, I really hope you are not referring to my tank. Please tell me you don’t think the one fish is pregnant as the would open a huge amount of research and implication that I wasn’t wanting to get into, but would feel obligated to do...no intention of breeding anything, the skeleton shrimp are doing that on their own so I just make sure they are well fed with good water quality.

 

[Bryson.bobby]

We all secretly love SeaWorld I think... lol. The whale stuff is a little dicey.

Yep, everyone but this guy lol
(Also there’s a quite a bit of profanity, so I just want to let you know now)

 

[Hemmdog]

Omg, I really hope you are not referring to my tank. Please tell me you don’t think the one fish is pregnant as the would open a huge amount of research and implication that I wasn’t wanting to get into, but would feel obligated to do...no intention of breeding anything, the skeleton shrimp are doing that on their own so I just make sure they are well fed with good water quality.

Lol oh no. @Alex.M. ’s business idea. She said she won’t use pumps or anything. I’m picturing above ground pools in a warehouse with skylights, filled with mangroves and chaeto. I’m just confused how you will get fresh air into the water with no pumps. Also confused how you will catch the fish if using large systems to breed tons of big hard to breed reef fish. I can’t even catch slow fish in my 90.

 

[Lissa1987]

Omg

Lol oh no. @Alex.M. ’s business idea. She said she won’t use pumps or anything. I’m picturing above ground pools in a warehouse with skylights, filled with mangroves and chaeto. I’m just confused how you will get fresh air into the water with no pumps. Also confused how you will catch the fish if using large systems to breed tons of big hard to breed reef fish. I can’t even catch slow fish in my 90.

I think I may have just had a heart attack trying to figure out how the hell I was going to raise unnamed goby fry...thank you so much for your quick reply...it may have saved my life.

 

[Hemmdog]

Omg

I think I may have just had a heart attack trying to figure out how the hell I was going to raise unnamed goby fry...thank you so much for your quick reply...it may have saved my life.

Lol, you are a wildcard. So funny Lolol.

 

[Lissa1987]

Lol, you are a wildcard. So funny Lolol.

I don’t even know how to respond because I’m still catching my breath

 

[vetteguy53081]

90% of our fish are wild caught as Few are captive bred

 

[BestMomEver]

You should not.

Doesn’t it depend on the laws of the state in question? I didn’t think of that before, but I’m sure every state has its own set of rules on such things.

 

[BestMomEver]

You’re jumping to some serious conclusions based on evidence you clearly don’t have. Five seconds and one google search later and I was able to dig up tons of primary literature on disease and infection affecting horseshoe crab...Please don’t spread information for which you have not yet vetted yourself.

I think the OP was relaying what was told by wildlife authorities. Also, the OP referenced an official, government article abt horseshoe crabs and cancer (not other diseases). You keep insisting that you’re information is correct when the OP has been told otherwise by someone tasked with upholding the laws of their state. A law enforcement officer has said it is ok to return the horseshoe crab to the ocean. Subsequently, it really doesn’t matter what anyone thinks about it, it is legal.

 

[BestMomEver]

Wait until OP finds out that the Pharmaceutical industry harvests 100's of thousands of Horseshoe Crabs yearly, collects 50% of their blood, and returns them to the wild, where they usually die.

I just read an article that states only 10%-30% of them die. It is not an official, government report but here it is...

“The industry says that not that many of the animals die. Between 10 and 30 percent of the bled animals, according to varying estimates, actually die.”


https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/02/the-blood-harvest/284078/