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Can you point ONE time that you ever tested any of the lights available over a reef tank?Can you point to one time anyone actually quantified the differences?
BTW the " subject" was t5's not mh ..
Not about me....Can you point ONE time that you ever tested any of the lights available over a reef tank?
Do you have more experience than those reefers?
Did you get a reef tank running yet. Oreo?
Experience is what application is about.
Adam mentioned T5s and metal halides. He didn't even mention LEDs. LOL!
My personal preferences are backed up by almost 3 decades of experiences with various reef tanks under all types of artificial lights and sunlight.
People just can't come here and try to defend their confirmation bias against a simple subject trying to justify their preferences against what the OP posted. Using arguments of light comparison, instead of just discussing the degradation of LEDs, which is a very interesting subject and should be discussed by whoever is interested in using them. I don't get it! Why every time people have to compare lights and try to justify their feelings like that?
The degradation of LEDs is real and should be taken seriously in this hobby. It's not something that anyone should be ashamed of or to ignore! This thread should be focused on the DEGRADATION OF LEDs. It would be so great to learn more about that! It's good for the LED uses to understand and face the fact!
Reef Brite is a great example of the degradation you mention.
I don't really think you can decide what constitutes someone else's hobby. It's like saying there should be no polished crome, detailing and fancy paint at an auto show because it should all be about horsepower. Certainly the coral shouldn't suffer at the expense of those things. Is coral suffering under leds? Generally I don't think so.The hobby is about growing corals in a glass box not about sliders in an app, control ability, AB+ spectrums and all that BS.
That truth is if people really cared only about coral health and vitality they would never use anything but 6500k MH as close to sunlight as we are ever going to get.
So wait - talking heads (many of them more full of crap than an elephant) on youtube are now the gold standard of fact? Good grief.Can you point ONE time that you ever tested any of the lights available over a reef tank?
Do you have more experience than those reefers?
I don't see anybody saying that they don't degrade. The FACT is that they don't degrade at the same rate or in the same manner as the other light sources. Again, all we have to do is look at the data sheets to determine the rate.The degradation of LEDs is real and should be taken seriously in this hobby.
Again - who is not facing the facts? The only people I see here that are having trouble with the facts are the OP and folks like yourself, hellbent on propping up a pointless debate with straw arguments and their own bias.It would be so great to learn more about that! It's good for the LED uses to understand and face the fact!
Huh? Switching bulbs does switch spectrum and intensity and DOES effect corals...I like t5s because I can’t tinker with them and if I do switching bulbs does not affect the corals like adjusting spectrum.
I would love to try the Phillips coral care but they are just too expensive.
This thread is lacking a lot of proof and is full of conjecture.
Actually arguably sulfur plasma is ..That truth is if people really cared only about coral health and vitality they would never use anything but 6500k MH as close to sunlight as we are ever going to get.
Well ghl Mitras has replaceable pucks.I think led can/do degrade over time, which is why I feel manufacturers should build in ways for the end user to repair or replace parts inside, or upgrade them. Orphek is great about this. Older ai prime hd now have options from Luxdium for led replacements Saving a good older light from the trash.
You are taking a general fact that people understand about LEDs:My point in this thread is that a lot of people used the excuse that leds don't degrade over time as a reason to buy fancy new gadgets that don't genuinely add anything better than they had previously.
That is your opinion, but most certainly not mine. Some people are in the hobby because they like to tinker with things, others for the fish, and yet others.The hobby is about growing corals in a glass box not about sliders in an app, control ability, AB+ spectrums and all that BS.
Only benefit to who? You?The lowering of heat output is the only true benefit and even that is subjective because your tank heater has to come on more so is that really saving any money.
That truth is if people really cared only about coral health and vitality they would never use anything but 6500k MH as close to sunlight as we are ever going to get.
Shhh - or somebody will steal the idea and bake it in, just like in modern autos.I miss the buzzing / humming noise.
Word!Brands like Ecotech bring out Radions as frequently as apple do iPhones. Its a gravy train nothing more.
Yeah because neither have incremental improvements…. You’d be the same people complaining that Ecotech or Apple are lazy and greedy because they sell the same product for a decade without spending money on R&D and incorporating new technology to stay relevant.Word!