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LOL whatchumean? it's DIY zoa creating!!! LOL!!! :tongue::tongue:
Zoa Genetic Crossover experiment. 1.0
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I know what you mean but for me it's chalices... I see some chalices that go for super cheap but then another that looks almost identical go for hundreds and the frags are smaller then a dime. BUT I love zoas and after gazing at so many variations you start to spot the differences and patterns... that probably goes the same for the chalice enthusiasts.
You're going to end up with a mutant LunarPE morph that climbs out of the tank, eats you and then blasts off for the moon!
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LOL . a lunar agave zombie outbreak!
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I wasn't referring to secrets little recipe I was comparing cars, caor,bowsers, 5 color rainbows etc... All identical polyps IMHO just different $ tags....:tongue:
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lol Lee, i'm gonna call these Lowzers and sell em for 1 MILLION DOLLARS!!!!
I think title is misleading because it has nothing to do with genetics!
it has everything to do with zooxanthellae
look up grafting corals, there are a few people out there doing this! I am doing this with some pe palys
and with a couple monti caps with the monti caps I have a tyree undata I am trying to get a bright orange to share some zooxanthellae with it
it has everything to do with zooxanthellae
look up grafting corals, there are a few people out there doing this! I am doing this with some pe palys
and with a couple monti caps with the monti caps I have a tyree undata I am trying to get a bright orange to share some zooxanthellae with it
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CHILLLLLLL..... this was started as a FUN home experiment to see what would happen, not some fully funded R&D experiment.........and yes myself and other reefers already know sps have been grafted for awhile now........ if you've been successful could you post some pics? we'd all be very interested to see your results.
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also tagging along to see what happens
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update. btw. this morning i saw a baby bud coming out right where (seems like) both raw cuts were connected. i'll post a pic tonight.
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I'm not sure what you consider grafting? In the plant sense(growing different species in one plant) a graft is not possible with acropora or montipora as far as I know. I think a lot of the problem lies with getting two different colors that are in fact the same species.
As far as zoas/palys; now it's somewhat common to see nuclear deaths. I don't believe they hold their morph however. Much like many "grafted" acros and montis that don't keep their green "grafts" long term.
I do support what your trying to do, but I think there is some tweaking to your methods that will increase your success. I hope you continue this experiment with other zoas and palys in your collection. GL
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thanks madreef! My chill reply was meant for Mainereefer...lol...This is what i consider grafting as done by Tyree and others. Limited Editions Acropora simplex Grafted Simplex . I started this since i really haven't seen anyone document and do the "crossover" with zoas so i had a couple polyps i could experiment with lying around so decided to try my luck. I definitely want to try this out with other PE's tho and will.
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updated 2 nov 11. baby coming out . looks like a lunar tentacles but it did look a little pale in the middle. sorry halides went off and leds went on right before i snapped this pic....
chill ? didnt know I was getting rowdy lol! I will post some pics in a couple weeks of the results sorry its a secret which corals I am using to make what, but there name will be designers people eater
a secret is you can take zooxanthellae from one polyp and inject it into the baby polyp of another and get the same results as growing them together
now having this turn into a problem is very possible every joe blow is going to create there own polyp to try and get rich of
I originally did this to see if it would work I have found you need to really damage the polyps to get them to morph together and share the zooxanthellae basically cutting into there stomach and taping and gluing them together
same as the sps you have to damage them to get them to heal with the other corals zooxanthellae
I would hate to see any "new-be" trying this because it can be fatal to the corals from infection, mixing not compatible corals, ......... like palys if you put a lunar eclipse with a people eater they will kill each other. yes they are both palys put different kinds
a secret is you can take zooxanthellae from one polyp and inject it into the baby polyp of another and get the same results as growing them together
now having this turn into a problem is very possible every joe blow is going to create there own polyp to try and get rich of
I originally did this to see if it would work I have found you need to really damage the polyps to get them to morph together and share the zooxanthellae basically cutting into there stomach and taping and gluing them together
same as the sps you have to damage them to get them to heal with the other corals zooxanthellae
I would hate to see any "new-be" trying this because it can be fatal to the corals from infection, mixing not compatible corals, ......... like palys if you put a lunar eclipse with a people eater they will kill each other. yes they are both palys put different kinds
Yeah bud, it is just being Dr
Frankenstein and splicing polyps at their stomachs using super glue, duct tape, and 22 gauge medical needles, everybody has already done it with good results. (I guess you missed the memo). Pics will come in a couple weeks...I'm gonna make one with my initials across the mouth.
All sarcasm aside, do you have any pics of the PE polyps you have already been successful with. Also, I don't think undata and capricornis isn't the same species...If zooxanthellae is species specific or whatever
Frankenstein and splicing polyps at their stomachs using super glue, duct tape, and 22 gauge medical needles, everybody has already done it with good results. (I guess you missed the memo). Pics will come in a couple weeks...I'm gonna make one with my initials across the mouth.
All sarcasm aside, do you have any pics of the PE polyps you have already been successful with. Also, I don't think undata and capricornis isn't the same species...If zooxanthellae is species specific or whatever
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Thanks buddy. lol you should've pm'D me the secret. now it's gonna be your fault for every "new-be" on R2R making designer PE's LOL. well i understand the "mixing" of different palys/zoas might be a no no, etc..etc... but this is a experiment since i didn't find any information of anyone doing what you're doing i just rolled with it. More like i had 2 polyps right in front of my face and the idea just happened. But it is what it is. I'll continue to experiment with other zoas/palys definitely. If you've already been successful could you post some successful pics with your zoas and montipora? You could just post pics and not disclose what zoas/palys you used....:crossedlips:
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